Of course i have harvested mature bucks.  But i dont live in a timbering area..I harvested all my bucks within 500 yards of my house.  I live on 40 acers with neighbors on all sides. This is where i live/hunt.....  my house on the bottom right, father in law bottom left with other houses surrounding all sides of our tract.

Im not saying that deer cant sniff you out, im just saying it all depends on the smells they are used to from in which the places you hunt.

Wes, I know of hunters like yourself that smoke on the stand, and they hunt in areas where there is a lot of timbering activity, and the timber workers most all smoke, and I think that is why these hunters get away with bagging bucks.  However, I now hunt exclusively in a very remote location where there is very little timbering activity and these deer will spoke at anything.  However, I have noticed that the hunters that smoke never take any bucks that are in the 5.5+ year old class, have you taken any bucks that were in this age class that you know of?

I dont mean to sound like i know everything, but i do have some experience in the "scent feild".  It really depends where you are at when you hunt that "scent" matters.  For example:  I hunt in fairly residential areas(my 40acre property which my house is on and another property with houses within a mile of my stand)...that being said, the deer arent going to spook or change direction if they smell you some.  After all, think of all the times you are outside doing yard work, burning trash, driving you 4 wheeler.

     All those things have a smell, and deer will be used to them.  Now if you hunt in a very remote spot(which most people dont) then compulsive scent control might be in order.  But i am a smoker, i smoke like a chimney, I even smoke while i hunt(about 1 smoke every half hour in the stand)...And I have harvested some nice big bucks and countless doe with a smoke lit!  To beat that, most of them with a bow!  That means they come within 30 yards of me while i was smoking, and whatever other scent i was giving off and it never really matter what the wind direction was.

if you talking about what I think your talking about then that’s suppose to be a shoot-through camo mesh. If you don’t want to shoot threw it and can’t take it down then yes cut a hole in it.

hope this helps.

I just put my new dog house up with the large replacement windows and they have a plastic over them, 1} does anyone have these windows and leaves the plastic on ? Im looking at this and saying how in the world do i take a shot through this plastic ?

I can see that the plastic over the net would make it better for sent control and keep it a little warmer insiide, but what can I do inorder to shoot through it? I thought about cutting a little hole  any I deas ? 

you wrote: Even with scent blicking clothes you have to hunt the wind (sorry, I don’t believe for a second that they work all that well) as I have been winded by deer even when wearing scent control clothing.

I do agree that you still have to hunt the wind with scent blocking clothing. however I completly disagree that they don’t work. they most certainly do work. however you have to use them properly. You need to take a scentless bath before going out in the woods. then you need to have your clothes washed in scentless detergent. and keep them away from unnatural smells. either put them in an air tight bag or set your clothes outside. Useing this method I have had a spike last weekend walk right around me. came less than 5 yards from me and I was on the ground walking (I stopped when I saw him. and he didn’t see me and he just kept getting closer.) He never spooked he just went around me like I was another tree in the woods. Now that’s some serious proof in my book.

i use a scent pad , and just in small quanity just for the fact that i dont believe they pee that much , i spray my boots with hs scents scent free spray with earth scent in it, then i use the scent pad , and i buy what i think ill use in a year ,  only early season do i use squirrel urin . i use a non estrus doe urin at the end of oct. since they will be starting the searching phase then when the rut is in i will break out the code blue doe in heat in a mock scrape , and drag it into the scrape on a rag then about 15 yards from that ill hang the code blue tarsal gland. its all about fooling there number 1 defense there nose. make sure if you are useing a ground blind spray it inside and out with a scent free spray .

Good Luck and see you in the field

Have you ever used the squirrel urine your self ? If so how much did you use ?

Also I see that the stuff comes in large Quantity’s, if I was to byt alot would it last till the folling year ? Thanks 

http://www.kishelscents.com/COMERSUS/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=3168

Squirrel Urine - 100 % natural
or you can get it at a trapping store near you !!!

I’m sure that you put it on your boots when walking in ? and do you put it out on a sent pad and hang it in a tree ? how much do you use ? so not to spook the deer?

thanks for the web address